control, you could ban all dianne feinstein, do whatever she wants to with magazines, it's not going to make any kid safer. we got to get to the real problem, the real causes and that's what the nra is trying to do. i have people all over the country calling me and saying, wayne, i went to bed safer last night because i have a firearm. don't let the media try to make this a gun issue. >> that's argument, it not fact. >> it is fact. >> a feeling is not fact. a feeling is a sense of reassurance, that's not what you're presenting. let's talk more specifically about what you're talking about, armed guards in school. there are successful examples. fairfax county, virginia has armed officers. there are examples where it hasn't worked. the columbine tragedy, it didn't stop the carnage. >> there were armed guards there and they didn't go in. they were under orders that if something happened they were to call the police for backup. >> they exchanged fires with the shooters. >> they waited for the s.w.a.t. team to show up and the s.w.a.t. team sat outside and tried to figure out what to do. ev
